sujoy Not sure what you mean by ‘PNHP does not call for a single payer system.’ when you quote “The Physicians’ Proposal for National Health Insurance establishes the vision and principles of a single-payer health system for the United States.”. I am sure I am missing smthing. Besides this I guess I have fundamental difference in opinion with you I do NOT think healthcare -as we know it here in the US- is a right it most cetainly is a priviledge. Yes emergent and life saving care is most obviously a right as will be deemed in any civilized society. this is true in this country as well. Getting 4 MRIs for a tennis injury that has left a nagging pain in smones’ elbow is not a right by any stretch. I too have not met any doctor who likes that insurance companies rather high school trained telephone operatorsmanage claim requests . I fully agree with you on that and the fact that the current payment sytstem is just plain bad. I am just not with you in that a SOCIALIZED sytem is better. What next then free food for all work for all equality in society……etc etc etc….does sound familiar though. More on this. Why not get together in book store Borders or B N or even the EB library on a week end. Sujoy http://